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문서 형식에 대한 의문[편집]

현재 위키낱말사전의 문서 형식이 너무 틀이 남발되고 불필요한 디자인이 들어가있다고 생각하는 건 저뿐인가요? 예전에 위키낱말사전:질문방#질문에서 같은 의문을 제기했을 때 아흔님이 일부 다른 언어판에서도 쓰이는 형식이라고 했지만 제가 확인한 바로는 한국어 위낱처럼 불필요한 디자인과 틀이 필요 이상으로 쓰이는 곳은 없습니다. 가능하다면 영어판 기준으로 해서 형식을 고치는 게 좋지 않을까요.--Altostratus (토론) 2015년 1월 25일 (일) 16:40 (KST)

저는 지금의 문서 형식이 좋다고 생각합니다. --Thswnstjr123 (토론) 2015년 1월 25일 (일) 20:26 (KST)
제 사견으로는 현재 쓰이고 있는 불필요한 틀이 위키낱말사전의 발전에 전혀 도움이 안된다고 생각됩니다. 단순한 위키 문법을 이용해서 나타낼 수 있는 것조차 틀로 표현하고 있는 것은 사실입니다.--Namoroka (토론) 2015년 1월 27일 (화) 18:37 (KST)
큰 문제가 없다면 봇을 돌리든가 해서 전부 바꾸도록 하겠습니다. 전역을 하고 나서든, 언젠가이든지요....--Altostratus (토론) 2015년 2월 20일 (금) 19:12 (KST)
영어 기준 변경에 적극 찬성합니다. -- 뭉게구름 (토론) 2015년 2월 21일 (토) 11:50 (KST)
반대 저는 이대로가 좋습니다. --Thswnstjr123 (토론) 2015년 2월 24일 (화) 09:26 (KST)
틀에 갇혀 있어서, 새로운 사용자들(특히, 위키백과 사용자 중에서 위키낱말사전으로도 관심을 가질 사용자들)의 편집을 저해하는 측면이 있고, 불필요한 디자인에 얽매이고 있으며, 부분편집 기능이 저해되고, 아직 틀을 갖추지 않은 수많은 언어들(예, 하카어)의 수록을 저해하고 있다는 측면에서, 틀을 과감하게 버릴 것을 제안합니다. 틀을 쓰기를 원하는 사용자가 있다면, 우선 두 가지를 병행해 보는 것도 좋을 것 같습니다. 라는 항목에서 한번 그렇게 해 보았습니다. HappyMidnight (토론) 2015년 3월 1일 (일) 17:57 (KST)
반대를 하신다면 근거를 제시해주셨으면 합니다. HappyMidnight님의 의견과 같이 현재 한국어 위낱의 형식은 너무 불필요한 부분이 많습니다.--Altostratus (토론) 2015년 3월 16일 (월) 20:23 (KST)
찬성 위키낱말사전을 참고하는 사용자로서 보기에, 위키낱말사전의 가독성이 떨어진다고 생각합니다. 가령 문서를 보자면, 최초 문서 접속 시에 제목의 위계가 쉽게 읽히지 않습니다. 순서가 '한국어 - 명사 - 빵 - 1' 순에서 다시 '부사 - 빵 - 1, 2' 순서라는 게 금방 눈에 들어오지 않는다는 거죠. 더욱이 해당 문서에는 명사 틀과 부사 틀 아래에 똑같은 빵이라는 틀이 반복되어 더 헷갈립니다. 인간 문서의 경우에는 파생어 틀의 문제인건지, 1번 단락 안에 있어야 할 '비인간, 인간성, 초인간' 항목이 들여쓰기 되지 않고 앞으로 나와 있습니다. 이 역시 정렬이 깨져 읽기 힘드네요. 사우 문서의 경우 제일 큰 제목인 '한국어' 틀과 '찌아찌아어' 틀이 바로 아래의 명사, 사우 틀과 연달아 놓여서 눈에 띄지 않아 애를 먹었습니다. 처음 볼때는 대단락이 뭔지, 문서 구성이 어떤지 파악하기 어렵다는 거죠. 즉 이 문서가 한국어와 찌아찌아어에서 사우라고 발음되는 낱말들을 설명하고 있는 것이라고 파악하기 힘들다는 겁니다. 더불어 속담 틀도 여러개가 나열되다 보면 보기에 따라서는 다른 틀과의 이질성 때문에 가독성이 떨어진다고 생각했습니다. 이런 문제들이 Altostratus님께서 지적하신 것처럼, 틀이 과도하게 사용되어 그런 것이 아닐까 하여 적어봤습니다. --Realist (토론) 2015년 5월 2일 (토) 13:04 (KST)
찬성 그런데 불필요한 틀을 없애는 것이 가능한가요? --H.S.Lim (토론) 1000 2015년 6월 15일 (월) 21:59 (KST)
봇을 쓴다면 가능하겠죠?--Altostratus (토론) 2015년 8월 31일 (월) 15:37 (KST)

[Global proposal] m.위키낱말사전.org: (모두) 문서 편집[편집]

MediaWiki mobile

Hi, this message is to let you know that, on domains like ko.m.wikipedia.org, unregistered users cannot edit. At the Wikimedia Forum, where global configuration changes are normally discussed, a few dozens users propose to restore normal editing permissions on all mobile sites. Please read and comment!

Thanks and sorry for writing in English, Nemo 2015년 3월 2일 (월) 07:32 (KST)

Inspire Campaign: Improving diversity, improving content[편집]

This March, we’re organizing an Inspire Campaign to encourage and support new ideas for improving gender diversity on Wikimedia projects. Less than 20% of Wikimedia contributors are women, and many important topics are still missing in our content. We invite all Wikimedians to participate. If you have an idea that could help address this problem, please get involved today! The campaign runs until March 31.

All proposals are welcome - research projects, technical solutions, community organizing and outreach initiatives, or something completely new! Funding is available from the Wikimedia Foundation for projects that need financial support. Constructive, positive feedback on ideas is appreciated, and collaboration is encouraged - your skills and experience may help bring someone else’s project to life. Join us at the Inspire Campaign and help this project better represent the world’s knowledge!

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SUL finalization update[편집]

Hi all,apologies for writing in English, please read this page for important information and an update involving SUL finalization, scheduled to take place in one month. Thanks. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 2015년 3월 14일 (토) 04:45 (KST)

한국어 위키에서의 한자 사용에 관한 의견 요청[편집]

안녕하세요.

메타에서 한국어 위키에서의 주석으로서의 한자 사용에 관한 의견 요청이 진행 중입니다. 공동체의 의견을 기다리고 있습니다. 감사합니다.


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Stewards confirmation rules[편집]

Hello, I made a proposal on Meta to change the rules for the steward confirmations. Currently consensus to remove is required for a steward to lose his status, however I think it's fairer to the community if every steward needed the consensus to keep. As this is an issue that affects all WMF wikis, I'm sending this notification to let people know & be able to participate. Best regards, --MF-W 2015년 4월 11일 (토) 01:12 (KST)

Nominations are being accepted for 2015 Wikimedia Foundation elections[편집]

This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available.

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Greetings,

I am pleased to announce that nominations are now being accepted for the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections. This year the Board and the FDC Staff are looking for a diverse set of candidates from regions and projects that are traditionally under-represented on the board and in the movement as well as candidates with experience in technology, product or finance. To this end they have published letters describing what they think is needed and, recognizing that those who know the community the best are the community themselves, the election committee is accepting nominations for community members you think should run and will reach out to those nominated to provide them with information about the job and the election process.

This year, elections are being held for the following roles:

Board of Trustees
The Board of Trustees is the decision-making body that is ultimately responsible for the long term sustainability of the Foundation, so we value wide input into its selection. There are three positions being filled. More information about this role can be found at the board elections page.

Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)
The Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) makes recommendations about how to allocate Wikimedia movement funds to eligible entities. There are five positions being filled. More information about this role can be found at the FDC elections page.

Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) Ombud
The FDC Ombud receives complaints and feedback about the FDC process, investigates complaints at the request of the Board of Trustees, and summarizes the investigations and feedback for the Board of Trustees on an annual basis. One position is being filled. More information about this role can be found at the FDC Ombudsperson elections page.

The candidacy submission phase lasts from 00:00 UTC April 20 to 23:59 UTC May 5 for the Board and from 00:00 UTCApril 20 to 23:59 UTC April 30 for the FDC and FDC Ombudsperson. This year, we are accepting both self-nominations and nominations of others. More information on this election and the nomination process can be found on the 2015 Wikimedia elections page on Meta-Wiki.

Please feel free to post a note about the election on your project's village pump. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the talk page on Meta, or sent to the election committee's mailing list, board-elections -at- wikimedia.org

On behalf of the Elections Committee,
-Gregory Varnum (User:Varnent)
Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee

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한국어 위키에서의 "조사" 확장기능 적용[편집]

안녕하세요.

위키미디어 파브리케이터 에서의 요청에 따라, 가까운 시일 내에 위키낱말사전에 조사 확장기능이 설치될 예정입니다. 이미 베타 한국어 위키백과에 적용되어 테스트해 보실 수 있습니다. 감사합니다.


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Wikimedia Foundation Funds Dissemination Committee elections 2015[편집]

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This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available.

Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2015 elections for the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) and FDC Ombudsperson. Questions and discussion with the candidates for the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) and FDC Ombudsperson will continue during the voting. Nominations for the Board of Trustees will be accepted until 23:59 UTC May 5.

The Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) makes recommendations about how to allocate Wikimedia movement funds to eligible entities. There are five positions on the committee being filled.

The FDC Ombudsperson receives complaints and feedback about the FDC process, investigates complaints at the request of the Board of Trustees, and summarizes the investigations and feedback for the Board of Trustees on an annual basis. One position is being filled.

The voting phase lasts from 00:00 UTC May 3 to 23:59 UTC May 10. Click here to vote. Questions and discussion with the candidates will continue during that time. Click here to ask the FDC candidates a question. Click here to ask the FDC Ombudsperson candidates a question. More information on the candidates and the elections can be found on the 2015 FDC election page, the 2015 FDC Ombudsperson election page, and the 2015 Board election page on Meta-Wiki.

On behalf of the Elections Committee,
-Gregory Varnum (User:Varnent)
Volunteer Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee

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Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections 2015[편집]

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This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available.

Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2015 elections for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. Questions and discussion with the candidates for the Board will continue during the voting.

The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is the ultimate governing authority of the Wikimedia Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization registered in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation manages many diverse projects such as Wikipedia and Commons.

The voting phase lasts from 00:00 UTC May 17 to 23:59 UTC May 31. Click here to vote. More information on the candidates and the elections can be found on the 2015 Board election page on Meta-Wiki.

On behalf of the Elections Committee,
-Gregory Varnum (User:Varnent)
Volunteer Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee

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Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections 2015[편집]

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This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available.

Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2015 elections for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. Questions and discussion with the candidates for the Board will continue during the voting.

The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is the ultimate governing authority of the Wikimedia Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization registered in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation manages many diverse projects such as Wikipedia and Commons.

The voting phase lasts from 00:00 UTC May 17 to 23:59 UTC May 31. Click here to vote. More information on the candidates and the elections can be found on the 2015 Board election page on Meta-Wiki.

On behalf of the Elections Committee,
-Gregory Varnum (User:Varnent)
Volunteer Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee

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Pywikibot compat will no longer be supported - Please migrate to pywikibot core[편집]

Sorry for English, I hope someone translates this.
Pywikibot (then "Pywikipediabot") was started back in 2002. In 2007 a new branch (formerly known as "rewrite", now called "core") was started from scratch using the MediaWiki API. The developers of Pywikibot have decided to stop supporting the compat version of Pywikibot due to bad performance and architectural errors that make it hard to update, compared to core. If you are using pywikibot compat it is likely your code will break due to upcoming MediaWiki API changes (e.g. T101524). It is highly recommended you migrate to the core framework. There is a migration guide, and please contact us if you have any problem.

There is an upcoming MediaWiki API breaking change that compat will not be updated for. If your bot's name is in this list, your bot will most likely break.

Thank you,
The Pywikibot development team, 19:30, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

HTTPS[편집]

2015년 6월 20일 (토) 07:01 (KST)

의문의 낱말[편집]

현재 분류:의문의 낱말분류:의문의 품사가 빈 분류로 되어 있는데다가 틀:의문의 낱말은 미사용 중 입니다. 필요하기에는 거리가 멉니다. 여러분의 생각은 어떻습니까? --Thswnstjr123 (토론) 2015년 7월 18일 (토) 16:08 (KST)

두 개의 분류가 불필요하다는 것에 동의합니다. --H.S.Lim 2015년 7월 27일 (월) 20:12 (KST)
현재 해당 분류에 해당하는 문서가 없는 상태입니다. -- 뭉게구름 (토론) 2015년 7월 28일 (화) 09:21 (KST)

Proposal to create PNG thumbnails of static GIF images[편집]

The thumbnail of this gif is of really bad quality.
How a PNG thumb of this GIF would look like

There is a proposal at the Commons Village Pump requesting feedback about the thumbnails of static GIF images: It states that static GIF files should have their thumbnails created in PNG. The advantages of PNG over GIF would be visible especially with GIF images using an alpha channel. (compare the thumbnails on the side)

This change would affect all wikis, so if you support/oppose or want to give general feedback/concerns, please post them to the proposal page. Thank you. --McZusatz (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (토론) 2015년 7월 24일 (금) 14:08 (KST)

띄어쓰기에 대하여[편집]

과학기술 등의 문서에 띄어쓰기를 둘러싼 문서 옮기기가 반복되고 있습니다. 저는 한글 맞춤법 제50항에 따라서 이러한 단어들은 띄어써야 한다고 생각하나, 이 사항은 편집자들의 총의를 모아서 결정하는 것이 좋겠다고 생각됩니다. 혹시 의견이 있으시다면 적어주세요.--H.S.Lim 2015년 7월 27일 (월) 20:20 (KST)

띄어쓰는 것이 좋다고 생각합니다. 또한 검색을 위한 넘겨주기는 필요하다고 봅니다. -- 뭉게구름 (토론) 2015년 7월 28일 (화) 09:22 (KST)

What does a Healthy Community look like to you?[편집]

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Hi,
The Community Engagement department at the Wikimedia Foundation has launched a new learning campaign. The WMF wants to record community impressions about what makes a healthy online community. Share your views and/or create a drawing and take a chance to win a Wikimania 2016 scholarship! Join the WMF as we begin a conversation about Community Health. Contribute a drawing or answer the questions on the campaign's page.

Why get involved?[편집]

The world is changing. The way we relate to knowledge is transforming. As the next billion people come online, the Wikimedia movement is working to bring more users on the wiki projects. The way we interact and collaborate online are key to building sustainable projects. How accessible are Wikimedia projects to newcomers today? Are we helping each other learn?
Share your views on this matter that affects us all!
We invite everyone to take part in this learning campaign. Wikimedia Foundation will distribute one Wikimania Scholarship 2016 among those participants who are eligible.

More information[편집]


Happy editing!

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How can we improve Wikimedia grants to support you better?[편집]

My apologies for posting this message in English. Please help translate it if you can.

Hello,

The Wikimedia Foundation would like your feedback about how we can reimagine Wikimedia Foundation grants, to better support people and ideas in your Wikimedia project. Ways to participate:

Feedback is welcome in any language.

With thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation.

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Introducing the Wikimedia public policy site[편집]

Hi all,

We are excited to introduce a new Wikimedia Public Policy site. The site includes resources and position statements on access, copyright, censorship, intermediary liability, and privacy. The site explains how good public policy supports the Wikimedia projects, editors, and mission.

Visit the public policy portal: https://policy.wikimedia.org/

Please help translate the statements on Meta Wiki. You can read more on the Wikimedia blog.

Thanks,

Yana and Stephen (Talk) 2015년 9월 3일 (목) 03:12 (KST)

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Open call for Individual Engagement Grants[편집]

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Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals until September 29th to fund new tools, community-building processes, and other experimental ideas that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers. Whether you need a small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD), Individual Engagement Grants can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.

Thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. 2015년 9월 5일 (토) 05:52 (KST)

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